Sports Talk NHL Entry Draft Pool: Final Results

By Hockey Guru


Welcome to the first annual Sports Talk NHL Entry Draft Pool, brought to you by STP Inc. and our platinum sponsor, Bud Light.

The format will be similar to the Final Exam, in so much as there will not be a live draft. Each entry will be submitted directly to the draft board (cbsbaseball2002@yahoo.com) and all entries will be posted to the draft table, making them official.

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Fantasy Draft Round #1: 25 Points: Who is the first overall pick?

Sunnyvale Shithawks: Tyler Seguin = 0 points
STP: Taylor Hall = 25 points
Hell Lions: Taylor Hall = 25 points
Muff Divers: Taylor Hall = 25 Points

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Fantasy Draft Round #2: 10 Points per correct answer
-5 Points per incorrect answer

Which teams will make trades on draft day (i.e. if you believe Hartford will make 3 trades - that equals three guesses - if they make 1 it is worth 0 points, 2 would be worth 10, 3 worth 20).

Sunnyvale Shithawks: Florida = 10 points, Atlanta = 10 points and Columbus (-5 points)
STP: No trades speculated
Hell Lions: Chicago = 10 points, Toronto = 10 points Minnesota = 10 points Calgary (-5 points), Philadelphia (10 ponts), Florida (1o points)
Muff Divers: Boston (2 trades) = 20 points, Edmonton = 10 points, Toronto = 10 points , Montreal = 10 points, Ottawa = 10 points, Buffalo (-5 points) , New York Rangers = 10 points, New York Islanders = 10 points, New Jersey (-5 points), Washington = 10 points, Pittsburgh = 10 points, Philadelphia = 10 points, Atlanta (2 trades) = 20 points, Carolina = 10 points, Florida = 10 points, Tampa Bay (-5points) Los Angeles = 10 points, Vancouver = 10 points, San Jose = 10 points, Anaheim = 10 points, Minnesota = 10 points, Nashville (-5 points), Colorado = 10 points, Phoenix = 10 points, St. Louis = 10 points, Chicago = 10 points, Columbus (-5 points) Calgary(-5 points), Dallas = 10 points, Detroit (-5 points)

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Fantasy Draft Round #3: 20 points for each exactly correct pick
10 points for each correct pick
-10 points for each incorrect pick

What is your "mock" draft order (teams not required) for picks 2-10?

Sunnyvale Shithawks: 2- Taylor Hall (10) 3- Erik Gudbranson (20) 4- Cam Fowler (-10) 5- Brett Connolly (10) Mark Pysyk (-10) Brandon Gormley (-10) Nino Niederreiter (10) Derek Forbort (-10) Alexander Burmistrov (10)
STP: 2nd - Seguin (20) Gormley (-10) Gudbranson (10) Fowler (-10) Connolly (20) Niederreiter (10) Johansen (10) Forbort (-10) Granlund (10)
Hell Lions: Seguin (20), Gormley (-10), Gudbranson (10), Fowler (-10), Johansen (10), Connolly (10), Nieberreiter (10), Skinner (10), Campbell (-10)
Muff Divers: No response provided

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Fantasy Draft Round #4: 25 points: What is the lowest draft position that will be traded?

Sunnyvale Shithawks: 27th Overall Pick = 0 points
STP: 210th Overall Pick = 0 points
Hell Lions: 5th Overall Pick = 10 points (closest)
Muff Divers: 1st Overall = 0 Points

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Fantasy Draft Round #5: 25 points: How many goaltenders will be drafted in Round 1?

Sunnyvale Shithawks: 1 Goaltender = 0 points
STP: 2 Goaltenders = 25 points
Hell Lions: 2 Goaltenders = 25 points
Muff Divers: 2 Goaltenders = 25 points

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Fantasy Draft Round #6: 25 points: How many defensemen will be drafted in Round 1?
7 Defensemen Were drafted

Sunnyvale Shithawks: 8 Defensemen = 10 points (awarded for being closest)
STP: 10 Defensemen = 0 points
Hell Lions: 9 Defensemen = 0 points
Muff Divers: 10 Defensemen = 0 points

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Fantasy Draft Round #7: 25 points: How many forwards will be drafted in Round 1?

Sunnyvale Shithawks: 21 Forwards = 25 points
STP: 18 Forwards = 0 points
Hell Lions: 19 Forwards = 0 points
Muff Divers: 18 Forwards = 0 points

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Fantasy Draft Round #8: 25 points: How many Canadian-born players will be drafted in Round 1?

Sunnyvale Shithawks: 12 = 0 points
STP: 12 = 0 points
Hell Lions: 0 points
Muff Divers: 15 = 25 points

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Fantasy Draft Round #9: 25 points: How many American-born players will be drafted in Round 1?

Sunnyvale Shithawks: 0 points
STP: 11 = 0 points
Hell Lions: 7 = 0 points
Muff Divers: 10 = 25 points

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Fantasy Draft Round #10: 25 points for correct answers, -10 for incorrect

Which players ranked in Central Scouting's Final Top 50 NAS Rankings will not be drafted in the first two rounds?

Sunnyvale Shithawks: Curtis Hamilton (-10 points) and Jerome Gauthier-Leduc = 25 points
STP: No players will fall that far
Hell Lions: Biega = 25 points, Melchiori = 25 points, Gauthier-Leduc = 25 points
Muff Divers: No answer provided

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Fantasy Draft Round #11: 10 points: Who gets booed louder - Gary Bettman or the Anaheim Ducks Organization as they take the podium for their first selection?

(Need the answer provided as Guru missed most of the draft)

Sunnyvale Shithawks: Bettman
STP: Bettman
Hell Lions: Anaheim
Muff Divers: Anaheim

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Fantasy Draft Round #12: There are 4 California-born players ranked in the top 100 by Central Scouting. For 10 Points per correct slot (160 total points are available in round 12) - what is the order that they will be drafted (points are doubled if the correct round is provided and doubled again if the correct team is named) (If selecting player will not be drafted = maximum of 40 points). NOT GRADED YET

Sunnyvale Shithawks: Beau Bennett (1st of the Four = 10 points) will go 36th to Florida, Jason Zucker will go 48th to Edmonton, Jacob Fallon will go 72nd to Tampa Bay and Tyler Aronson will go 95th to NY Islanders
STP: I'll go with Etem, then Bennett, then Fallon, then Aronson. For the bonus points, I'll take Etem and Bennett in Round 1, with the other two guys going in Round 3. For further bonus points, I'll say that Etem goes to Anaheim, Bennett goes to the Kings, with Fallon going to Anaheim and Aronson going to the Kings. [Ed. Note: Going off the board, but still correct - STP burns himself as Bennett goes prior to Etem - he can still score points with Fallon (Anaheim) and Aronson (Kings)].
Hell Lions: There are 4 CA born players:draft order – Bennet (Round 2) = 10 points, Zucker (Round 2), Fallon (Round 3), Aronson (Round 4)
Muff Divers: No response provided = 0 points

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Fantasy Draft Round #13: 100 points: Will the Sports Talk Pool Blogsite be able to handle the traffic created by this pool, or will the site crash?

Sunnyvale Shithawks: The Blog will survive the Draft traffic = 25 points
STP: Having access to the actual traffic numbers, it may be unfair for me to score these points, but I gotta say that our server should be able to handle the load - no crashing = 25 points.
Hell Lions: The site will handle all poll traffic as well as any potential traffic driven to site by additional photos of Diaz, Liu, or Barrymore = 25 points
Muff Divers: There's no way with the anticipation of this draft and word circulating throughout not only the hockey community but the world (as this draft transcends sport) = 0 points

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Final Totals - PENDING - THE JUDGES HAVE CALLED FOR A PHOTO:

Sunnyvale Shithawks: points
STP: points
Hell Lions: points
Muff Divers: Points (picking every team to make a trade helps)

Enjoy the rest of the draft and thanks again to our platinum sponsor, Bud Light.

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Vidi Vici: Niedermayer Sets Off Massive Fan Brawl

By Spezzal Teams Playa

Anyone happen to catch last night's Ducks / Lightning game in Anaheim? Niedermayer ends up scoring the overtime winner on the power play, so naturally he is named the First Star.

So he does his little First Star skate-around salute thing, then tries to give his stick to some little girl in the first row. Check this out:




I love the way the Fox Sports guy is all like, "So .... what are they, fighting over your stick over there or something?"

Apparently one of the combattants is sometimes Ducks blogger, and full-time street fighting afficiando, Mike Vallely. Turns out the stick may have been intended for his daughter. Imagine that. The one time you try and steal a game-stick from a little girl and her Pops ends up being this guy.

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The Guru Report: Montreal Guts Out a Gut Goal

by Hockey Guru


Boston-Montreal

Great start by the Bruins and when Krejci put the B’s ahead 2-0 – Hockey Guru thought – here we go with another boat race.

But Montreal scored the first “gut goal” of the playoffs. “Gut goals” are the goals that teams score mostly because of desperation, determination and grit. There weren’t too many scoring chances to that point but Montreal desperately needed to answer back and Christopher Higgins scored the third goal of the game. Remarkably it was done 2 minutes after that 2 goal lead was held.

This series will be close and the score will likely be tied or a 1-goal game at all times. It’s how the hockey gods want it to be. It’s Montreal-Boston. It’s awesome!

Whether this series goes 4, 5, 6 or 7 games – these are must-see games.


Detroit-Columbus

With the Bruins-Canadiens game competing for the Hockey Guru’s attention – the occasional flip to check-in on this game showed what the Guru knew. Detroit is an amazing team.

When they have to – they can take their game up a level. They have the skill, they have the experience and they have the heart. They have been champions for a reason.

RJ Umberger is trying to prove he isn’t another John Druce or 1-year playoff wonder – he scores big goals in big games.

Perhaps the most impressive aspect from the box score is that Detroit held Columbus to 2 shots in the third period. At a time when a team is desperately trying to get back into a game – that’s IMPRESSIVE.


Chicago-Calgary

The Hockey Guru did not Tivo the game – so when watching the third period and 12 seconds of overtime – the feelings of regret about missing most of the first two periods eroding the enjoyment of this game.

The Chicago crowd was tremendous and this was an awesome game but there’s not much insight for the Guru to impart.

San Jose-Anaheim

Anaheim has captured the home ice in the series!!!

Many of the readers of that know how the Guru feels about that phrase. But Anaheim winning the first game of this series demonstrates how difficult the Stanley Cup is to win.

Having the best record in the NFL – your team doesn’t even have to play in the first round of the playoffs. Then, you get to face the lowest seeded remaining team at home when you’re rested and they’ve gone through a playoff game the week before.

Losing that first game is a major upset in the NFL.

But in the NHL – the disparity between the 1 and the 8 seed is not the disparity between the 1 and 8 seed in the NCAA tournament.

As a long time fan of Jumbo Joe and defender of his – this year there are no excuses. With San Jose’s regular season – he should be rested, healthy and primed for a run.

Game 1 saw 1 shot on net from Big Joe – and he was a non-factor on most of his 28 shifts. Through the Guru’s eyes (yes they were a bit heavy during this game – and distracted with a teething baby) – San Jose didn’t generate too many quality scoring chances. For the offensive juggernaut they had been – they certainly weren’t in game 1. Credit Anaheim’s defense, credit Randy Carlyle – or blame Joe Thornton.

1 game is not a series – but the questions and the pressure are going to make it harder and harder for San Jose in this series.

It’s often said that until a team loses on its home ice – a “series” hasn’t begun – well then this series has begun – and if San Jose doesn’t respond in game 2 – it could be on its way to being over.



The Guru’s forecast for tonight’s game is put on sunblock for the Philly-Penguins game as the red light should be lit often.

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My Enormous Crystal Balls: NHL 2009 (Western)

by Hockey Guru, Will-He-M and Spezzal Teams Playa


After spending all of our time debating the Eastern Conference, we barely have time to scratch the surface out West. Without further ado:


Anaheim (8) at San Jose (1)



Guru: Can't wait for this series. The good news is that it will assure us of doubleheaders, rather than all the games going early. It will be worth staying up late for, but Anaheim doesn't have the goaltending to match Nabokov. And Joe Thorton is a clutch playoff performer (you heard it here first! This will be the year that he proves to be Conn Smythe worthy). Prediction: San Jose advances.

Will: I don't know why but I'm not interested in this series. Anaheim has no business being here and they're going to show it. Sharks will go through this series quickly. Prediction: Sharks in 4.

Spezzal Teams Playa: Somebody’s been eating MY porridge. I mean, this series isn’t too hard or too soft or too hot or too cold. It’s jusssst right. Or maybe this Sens fan simply wants to see the most graphic duck hunt possible – with sharks as the hunters. I guess the image of a shark devouring anything is cool, so a duck really isn’t the most graphically gruesome image imaginable (think shark vs. flame, or shark vs. lightning bolt). Nevertheless, these Ducks are as out-matched as the imagery would suggest. Prediction: San Jose in 5 games.


Columbus (7) at Detroit (2)



Guru: Steve Mason proves yet again that a rookie goalie can't win in the playoffs. Never happened before, won't happen now. Will can confirm this. The Habs have seen promising rookie goalies fall apart under the pressure of the playoffs. Rick Nash is scary good, but Detroit is loaded (except that goalie thing). Detroit can take it up a level, and will. Nash could be helping Team Canada soon. Prediction: Detroit moves on.

Will: A rookie goalie can't win in the playoffs? There are so many things wrong with that statement. Here's a free hockey lesson, Guru. These are the rookie goalies who have led their teams to the Finals, since 1950: Gerry McNeil (Mtl 1950-51), Jacques Plante (Mtl 1953-54), Glenn Hall (Det 1955-56), Don Simmons (Bos 1956-57), Roger Crozier (Det 1965-66, Won Conn Smythe), Ken Dryden (Mtl 1970-71, Won Cup & Conn Smythe), Pete Peters (Phl 1979-80), Andy Moog (Edm 1982-83), Patrick Roy (Mtl 1985-86, Won Cup & Conn Smythe), Mike Vernon (Cgy 1985-86), Ron Hextall (Phl 1986-87, Won Conn Smythe), Cam Ward (Car 2005-06, Won Cup & Conn Smythe). I digress. Now just when I was looking forward to the Jackets playing the Flames, they get passed in the standings. Steve Mason has been on fire all season, pretty much guaranteeing himself the Calder, and making a serious run at the Vezina. The Jackets have a superior man between the pipes and by the time Babcock realizes Osgood shouldn't be in there, the series will be over. Prediction: Jackets in 6.

Spezzal Teams Playa: To be fair to all of the veteran goalies out there, a list of twelve rookies to make the Finals in almost 60 years (or almost 120 goalies in the Finals) might seem like a lot, but how big would the list of rookie goalies that didn’t make the Finals be? Working backwards, you’d have Rinne, Elliott, Quick, Ramo, and Danis. Then you’d have Price, MacDonald, Ellis….The point is, with 4-6 rookies each season, the odds that one of them makes the Finals isn’t that remote. Steve Mason will not be the 13th guy to do it this year, but that’s OK. He’ll do the next best thing. Prediction: Columbus in 6 games.


St. Louis (6) at Vancouver (3)



Guru: Great run St. Louis, (try not to take a step backwards next year), but Roberto Luongo and Mats Sundin will find a way to get Vancouver into Round 2.

Will: I am so keen for this series. The two hottest teams in the NHL going head-to-head. This one is going to be great. I'm not sold on Sundin, as he's been nothing more then a bust in Van-city, recording the worst season of his Hall of Fame career (he posted his worst ever points-per-game and goals-per-game totals). I’m damn glad that he chose not to go to Montreal, but I will admit that I wanted him on the Habs all summer. The only thing that'll keep the Canucks in this series is the phenomenal goaltending that Bobby Lu is sure to provide. I just can't see the Sedins being able to carry the team on their backs. Prediction: Blues in 7.

Spezzal Teams Playa: Back at the All-Star Game, I pointed out to my Avs-lovin’ friends how tightly packed the West had become. They were all lamenting the fact that their team found themselves in 14th place, even after I reminded them of the incredible 1981 turnaround that their franchise had experienced in the second half. Still not impressed, I was forced to bring out the big guns. After Colorado had pulled off back-to-back victories against the two hottest teams at the time (Calgary and Dallas), I boldly offered to wager that the only team below the Avs would, in fact, sneak into 8th place. Whether they thought I wasn’t being serious or if they were concerned about what kind of odds they’d have to give me, the fact that nobody was willing to take my action came as a bit of a relief. Now, these same people refuse to admit that I called St. Louis to leapfrog over six Western teams in two months, when they actually passed 8 teams to grab the 6th seed. All this to say that I have been a big fan of the Blues since I was driving that wagon solo, but now I’m ringing the bell to disembark. Prediction: Vancouver in 5 games.


Calgary (5) at Chicago (4)



Guru: Calgary is not the team it was early in the year. Kiprusoff is not the goalie he was. Chicago is ready now to win. And will. (Way to go out on a limb and predict ZERO upsets in the West).

Will: This series is very reminiscent of the Pens-Sens series, from last year. On the one hand, you have a very young and solid group of players with 2 number one goalies. On the other hand, you have a struggling team since the Trade Deadline (8-11-0), who have an over-worked goalie. I just don't see the Flames being able to compete against the Hawks. Prediction: Hawks in 5.

Spezzal Teams Playa: To those who remember my dust-up with Mother Puckers a few months ago, they can attest to my lack of patience. But how many of you remember the time I locked the Calgary Hitmen from posting messages, for his repeated attempts to get my goad via his insults of Denis Savard and his Hawks? If you can forgive yet another thinly-veiled, self-congratulatory blast from the past, you’ll afford me the opportunity to proclaim another of my early predictions, when I said a year and a half ago that the Hawks would compete for the Cup this Spring. Prediction: Blackhawks in 5 games.


So there you have it people. 24 predictions from the three biggest loudmouths you’ll meet in this league. We also made our picks for each of the subsequent Rounds, which I’ll post shortly. With almost half of the Game 1’s wrapped up as we speak, I thought I should publish this list right away. I have certainly never shied away from long essays, but mapping the layouts has been eating up all of my time this evening. I had hoped to have about ten articles up by now, but I guess I’ll just go ahead and post the Matchups for our pool before getting into the Official Rules, which have basically been laid out already. I just saw New Jersey score, but I assure you I had them all along, so don’t go saying that I only picked them after seeing Game 1. I’ve been wasting spending so much time on this site the past two hours, that I barely even saw any of the games. Now, I’m going to go have a smoke and catch the tail end of tonight’s action.

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